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WinCE 5.0 After reboot all changes are deleted

 
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vascoadao
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject: WinCE 5.0 After reboot all changes are deleted Reply with quote

Hello from a newbie to all Forum members.
Can you please give me some help about the following problem:
I own a small PND made in China Rolling Eyes running WinCE 5.0. If I add some shortcuts to Programs folder or if I delete/add shortcuts to the desktop area they disappear after reboot. So I can only keep the original manufacturer "look"
What I'm doing wrong and how can I overcame this problem?
TIA
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a common issue with many Windows CE 5.0 devices. I assume there's a NAND storage folder in the device's file system. Check this page for a workaround:

http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/cesd/s/0127.asp

Your NAND storage folder may have a different name rather than "NandFlash" as in the instructions on the above page. Just substitute the exact name of that folder instead of "NandFlash."
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CE Geek, thanks for your prompt and helpfull reply.
The pointed solution worked fine (and I ended finding out, in my case, the \NandFlash folder it is named "ResidentFlash"
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: same problem... Reply with quote

Hi,
I have the same problem with a WinCE 5 device.

I've successfully installed .Net Compact Framework 3.5 on the board... and afther then my application run correctly on the board but when I reboot and I try to run my application the system tells me that there isn't CF Framework.

The same is with a FTDI drivers... The board erase all that I install everytime I reboot.

The link you attach doesn't work.

Please Help

Thnx a lot
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HPC:Factor has unfortunately been down the past few days. Hopefully it'll be back up soon.

It's a little more complicated with the .NET CF, because the CAB installer installs a few of the files (mscoree3_5.dll, netcfagl3_5.dll, and a couple of others) in \Windows even if you specify another location for the install - and even if you change the value for HKLM\System\Explorer\Shell Folders\Windows to the \Windows folder inside the NAND storage folder. (I can confirm this from my own attempts.) However, I think I've found a solution:

1) Download MSCEInf:

http://freewareppc.com/utilities/msceinf.shtml

2) Open MSCEInf and select the .NET CF CAB file, and then click the icon on the toolbar to extract the files to a folder. (It'll create a \Windows folder inside the folder where the CAB file is.)

3) Copy the .NET CF CAB file onto an SD card and place the SD card in the CE 5 device after the device has been fully booted up.

4) Execute the CAB file on the CE 5 device, specifying the NAND storage folder as the installation location.

5) Now copy the contents of the \Windows folder mentioned in step 2) to the location where you installed the .NET CF on the CE 5 device, choosing "No" each time you are asked if you want to overwrite the existing file. (The ones that aren't already there are the ones the installer originally placed in \Windows on the CE 5 device.)

6) Install any .NET CF programs you want to use to the same folder as the .NET CF files on the device. (Subfolders can be copied intact to that location.)

It's messy, but it works.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who wish to read the HPC:Factor page I linked above, be advised that the site is back up and the page can be accessed once again.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: chinese 7inch notebook Reply with quote

I too have one of these. It is a bit frustrating finding things to operate on it. Also the same issue with the favorites and documents dissapearing.

I looked for a registry editor but could not find one that will work on this.
I found a few that require a connection to a pc but I have no idea how to or if it is even possible to link this.

Any help is appreciated.

I did a lenghty review of the whole thing. If anyone would like I wil post it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least two I know to work:

1) Total Commander ( http://www.ghisler.com/ ), which allows you to browse the registry like normal files and folders; and

2) Tascal Registry Editor ( http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~tascal/download/pocketpc/index_e.htm#Freeware ).

Use the ARM version of either program.

As for your review, we might well be interested in posting it on HPC:Factor. Click on the link below and look for the "Reviews" link, and you'll find instructions on how to submit a review for posting on our site.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:38 am    Post subject: editor Reply with quote

Thank you for your reply. I actually already tried both programs you suggested, neither will install on the device. I can not activesync to a PC so installing from that method is not an option, I copied the cab files to a flash drive and when I try to install I get a window that the program is not written for this device. This has no name or model number, made by Shenzhen China. The system indicates an AKARM, ARM926-AKC Windows CE 5 Build 1400
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:16 am    Post subject: working software Reply with quote

I actually found a couple of apps that installed and worked. They were written for a Sigmarion III. Gemini PIMS, and a calculator that I am not sure who wrote, and planmaker. Information placed in the pim is lost on reboot. Probably the same issue that loses favorites and desktop.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, these generic CE 5 (and 6) netbooks are really picky about what CABs they'll install. I use MSCEInf to extract the CABs on the PC:

http://freewareppc.com/utilities/msceinf.shtml
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have time right now to play with it but I will ask this question.
Is this correct, to use this program, on would extract the files to a folder then manually place the files in the locations indicated by the rft docment in the cab file? I might try this later today. Again I thank you for your input. I see these little devices all over ebay, can't help but think there are literally thousands of people frustrated with them and very little support.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSCEInf creates folders with the names of the default installation destination folders (Program Files, Windows, etc), and also creates any subfolders that the CAB is written to create for resource files (images, sounds, saved data, etc). In other words, it creates the same folder hierarchy on the device for the application that the installer would create.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all of your help. I have managed to get the desktop to stay the way I like it and my IE favorites don't vanish.
If I could just get a calendar and address book to remember what I enter. And a working bible things would be great.

Again thanks, I hope that I can xtend the same help to someone else.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the HPC:Factor forums for the latter. There have been several threads discussing the various Windows CE Bible reader programs. Most of the online sources still have versions that will work on core Windows CE devices. (Make sure you use the ARM versions, of course.)

Most of these CE 5 and 6 netbooks don't have built-in databases for PIM data (ie, Appointments, Contacts, Tasks). I've tried a workaround by using EZOS' EzBackup to restore only those databases from another Windows CE device to the netbook, but those databases still get dumped on reboot. Still, I suppose I could just restore them each time I reboot the netbook, if I don't mind the extra hassle. This is one way you can at least restore the data easily. EzBackup can be found here:

http://www.yetanotherhomepage.com/j7xx/

Look under Software -> Utilities.
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